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youngman
Beverly Hills, CA

August 20, 2008
6:33 AM

Post #5440424

someone on yahoo told me it is called pasty cline rose, i looked at those 3 pics uploaded on here, they look a little different.

[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]

i am not a paid member, so i can't post my question in the rose forum.

is it a rare rose? i haven't seen any in any public places that i have been to ever since i started to pay attention to the roses a month ago.

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Calif_Sue
San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 20, 2008
11:33 AM

Post #5441539

Rose lovers use the HelpMeFind website to look up info on roses
[HYPERLINK@www.helpmefind.com]

I took the three images of Patsy (not pasty) in a local public rose garden. You can find more images here by clicking on the photo tab. It's a 1983 intro. From the Buy From tab, there aren't any vendors listed so it may be hard to find.
[HYPERLINK@www.helpmefind.com]
This rose is a cross between Angel Face × Double Delight so should be quite fragrant.

If just one person IDed it from an image, I wouldn't say it definitely is that rose, there are other possibilities. How long have you had this rose? Fragrance? Height? Any other images?




youngman
Beverly Hills, CA

August 20, 2008
2:45 PM

Post #5442417

This rose grows at my previous residence, right in front of the door. That place is locked, so I can't go back and cut another stem.

I tried to grow some when I moved, none survived. So far, I think that this is the prettiest rose that i have ever seen, I haven't seen it at any other places at all.

It is about the regular rose height, here is another picture.

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Calif_Sue
San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 20, 2008
3:09 PM

Post #5442511

Other possibility could be Gemini,or Lynn Anderson. I'll link this to the Rose Forum for any other suggestions.
Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

August 20, 2008
5:18 PM

Post #5443146

It looks like Lynn Anderson or Princesse de Monaco, but it's hard to tell from photos of one bloom because Secret, Double Delight, Love and Peace, and dozens of other roses occasionally produce a bloom that looks like this one.
BeaHive
Silverton, OR

August 20, 2008
5:49 PM

Post #5443241

Could be Nicole. It is the prettiest rose I have ever owned.
or even Cherry Parfait

This is Nicole

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BeaHive
Silverton, OR

August 20, 2008
5:51 PM

Post #5443247

Cherry parfait

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youngman
Beverly Hills, CA

August 20, 2008
6:12 PM

Post #5443310

No, beahive, those two are not the one that I am asking. This rose doesn't produce so many flowers all at once. And the second looks too red, the one that I am asking is more pink.

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here is another one, it started to fade already.

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Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

August 20, 2008
7:17 PM

Post #5443567

Yes, it's clearly a hybrid tea or a grandiflora. Here's Princesse de Monaco. It starts out with just a touch of pink, as in your first photo.

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Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

August 20, 2008
7:18 PM

Post #5443570

It develops more pink as it opens.

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dovey
Columbus, OH
(Zone 5b)

August 20, 2008
10:22 PM

Post #5444676

Looks like Double Delight to me.
Does it have a strong traditional rose fragrance?

[HYPERLINK@www.helpmefind.com]
youngman
Beverly Hills, CA

August 21, 2008
7:38 AM

Post #5445734

oh, yes, zuzu, i think that this is probably the one! those two pictures that you uploaded didn't look like the one that I had, but I searched online, and looked at other pictures, they do look like the one that I had. and it does become more pink as it opens.

However, someone on yahoo told me that it is a patsy cline rose, and I searched google, i can't find many pictures of that rose. maybe it is just another name for it.

Here are two links for the monaco rose.

[HYPERLINK@www.amityheritageroses.com]
this has a small size pic.

[HYPERLINK@flickr.com]
this has a super big size picture.

so unless someone else can give me another name, I think that my question is answered.
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Dovey, this is not the double delight, I am attaching a picture of that, that one is mostly red on the edges.

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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

August 21, 2008
9:29 AM

Post #5446224

No, 'Patsy Cline' is a different rose, it's not another name for any of the ones that have been mentioned here. I suspect the person on Yahoo was just mistaken on what it was. When you posted this before on another forum I had given you a link to the pics of 'Patsy Cline' in Plant Files and it doesn't look like yours [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
seedpicker_TX
Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 21, 2008
1:00 PM

Post #5447389

I agree with Zuzu...Love and Peace
[HYPERLINK@www.helpmefind.com]
Some days it is whitish with ruby edges, and some days creamy yellow, with ruby edges.

Double delight is a great one, but leans more towards red edges, instead of dark pinkish or ruby

Speelwark also has similar look, but unfortunately the pictures of it on hmfind, aren't that great :0(

Sometimes my Speelwark and Love and Peace can look quite similar but Love and Peace's blooms finish quickly, whereas Speelwark retains the bloom, and the color of the bloom, much longer
Calif_Sue
San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 21, 2008
1:08 PM

Post #5447435

Actually Zuzu came up with Princesse de Monaco [HYPERLINK@www.helpmefind.com]
seedpicker_TX
Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 21, 2008
1:16 PM

Post #5447506

Hi Sue-
I was referencing this post:
[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]

sorry, just trying to offer some suggestions. Didn't realize you all had it solved.
-T
Calif_Sue
San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 21, 2008
1:22 PM

Post #5447533

Ah, I see. :-) Personally I think that Love and Peace has way more yellow generally. From the 3 images youngman posted, they all seem to have more white as the background color with maybe a tinge of soft yellow like several of the Princesse de Monaco images show.

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