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EmmaGrace
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
August 20, 2008
5:05 PM Post #5443099
| Looking for ID on this vine please.
Could this be some kind of vegetable bloom?
Looks like tendrils in the top left of the photo.
Thanks,
Emma
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
August 20, 2008
5:51 PM Post #5443245
| It's in the Cucumber Family. Did you plant it? Did it pop up in your garden? Is it a wild / native plant? |
EmmaGrace
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
August 20, 2008
7:25 PM Post #5443601
| Hi Metrosideros,
Thank you for narrowing the ID to the Cucumber family.
I too thought it was something similar, but I don't know about this type of plants.
I have neither planted this or have it in my garden and this is not my photo. It is from an eBay seller advertising this as a Morning Glory [which I know that it is not] and was curious what it really is.
Do you feel comfortable narrowing the ID to a generic level?
I really like this vine and to me it is unusual to have a White Bloom, or at least can say I have not seen a White Showy Bloom like this on Cucurbitaceae
Thank you again . . .
Emma
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
August 20, 2008
7:39 PM Post #5443685
| The plant reminds me of the Coccinia Genus, the Scarlet fruited gourds. Maybe weeds, sometimes native plants.
Fruit will help tell the Genus/species. |
sallyg
Anne Arundel Co., MD
(Zone 7a)
August 20, 2008
11:41 PM Post #5445074
| It looks like the flowers on my bushel and birdhouse gourds. Cukes have yellow flowers with pointed petals. those gourds are in Lagenaria genus. Keep an eye on it for baby fruits. |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
August 21, 2008
1:07 AM Post #5445372
| Several Genera in the Cucurbitaceae have white flowers! |
EmmaGrace
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
August 21, 2008
11:12 AM Post #5446748
| Thank you again Metrosideros,
and Thanks sallyg.
The only times I have grown Cucumbers, I too have always gotten a yellow bloom which is why my interest is perked on what this could really be, especially the fact that the blooms appear to be quite large.
Metrosideros,
Yes, I too have seen in my searching White blooms on the Cucurbitaceae, however, since I really don't know what I am looking for, I am wondering with your expertise if you would mind listing all of the several genera within Cucurbitaceae that do have white flowers that you are aware of . . .
Or if anyone else might know.
I would really appreciate this information.
Thanks so much,
Emma
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sallyg
Anne Arundel Co., MD
(Zone 7a)
August 21, 2008
1:34 PM Post #5447608
| Ok I was curious to see how bad my memory has gotten. Here's what I read
in Rodale
Hard shelled fruits are produced by white flowered gourds-[Lagenaria siceraria] Yellow flowered gourds[Cucurbita pepo var. ovifera] produes colorful decorative thin shelled gourds."
I should have known- I am growing spinning top gourds which have yellow edible-cuke-like flowers
The white flowered gourds that I have, have flowers about 2 inches across, no more than 3 inches I'd day. |
pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)
August 21, 2008
1:46 PM Post #5447666
| This was taken yesterday...it's a Bird house Gourd flower.
Your flower at the top is most def. a gourd of some sort.
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EmmaGrace
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
August 21, 2008
2:07 PM Post #5447752
| sallyg -
THANK YOU!
I believe you are right . . . from what I have come up with on searches.
Not too many photos of blooms that I could find, but did find these:
Male Flower
[HYPERLINK@img.photobucket.com]
Female
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Here is the link where I found those photos that reference
Bottle Gourd Lagenaria siceraria
[HYPERLINK@www.greenculturesg.com]
Lovely Blooms aren't they!
So you think it is safe to say this is Lagenaria siceraria ?
I really appreciate your help . . .
Emma
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EmmaGrace
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
August 21, 2008
2:08 PM Post #5447757
| THANK YOU pixie62560 . . .
That is such a pretty bloom.
Thanks for sharing -
Emma
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
August 21, 2008
6:48 PM Post #5448768
| Lagenaria siceraria flowers bloom at night!
Other white flowered Cucurbits:
Coccinea species, Ivy Gourds / Scarlet-Fruited Gourds.
Melothria species, Creeping Cucumber.
Trichosanthes cucumerina, Snake Gourd.
I think from what I've seen so far that the plant may be a Coccinea. Coccinea grandis has been cultivated for it's edible fruit and leaf shoots. |
pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)
August 21, 2008
6:53 PM Post #5448802
| Well Emma, thought i'd share what takes the place of the bloom eventually... 
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sallyg
Anne Arundel Co., MD
(Zone 7a)
August 21, 2008
11:19 PM Post #5450206
| Emma--I am not going to pretend to be an expert on these plants. a significant point may be the size of your flowers in relation to the leaves. I'm sure you'll look into the others that Metrosideros has listed.
Here is my gourd flower, but the bottles gourd leaves are up to 16 inches across. My birdhouse gourd leaves are not that big but still much, much larger than the flowers
And you didn't say whether your flowers stay open during the day or if new flowers open late in the day and wither the next morning.
I took my picture in daylight.
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Kalpavriksha
Sarasota, FL
August 22, 2008
1:40 PM Post #5452826
| Trichos means threads; here's a flower for Trichosanthes cucurmerina. Many white flowers open at sunset for pollination by night flying insects; I don't have the experience to say that Lagenaria's flowers close at sunrise. Some white, night-opening flowers like white ginger close at noon. 
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