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stephericor
Ashland, OR
November 19, 2008
4:27 PM Post #5809771
| Please ID. What's this fruit? We've seen it twice as a garnish on desert. It's about the size and consistency of a large cherry tomato, and tastes somewhat bland but sweet. We saw it growing on a house in Portsmouth, UK today so we snapped a photo. 
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suse
Bretten
(Germany)
November 19, 2008
4:50 PM Post #5809849
| Passiflora ? |
Stake
Barmera
(Australia)
November 19, 2008
8:35 PM Post #5810465
| G'Day
That plant has a resemblance to the Passion Fruit used as a rootstock for other Passion Fruits particularly Passiflora edulis, the ordinary black Passion Fruit. I think but am not sure that it originated from New Guinea and has red flesh it is edible but as you state a bit bland.
Regards |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
November 19, 2008
8:59 PM Post #5810554
| The leaves have too many lobes to be Passiflora edulis. Are there tendrils on the plant? |
Stake
Barmera
(Australia)
November 19, 2008
9:12 PM Post #5810598
| G'Day
Sorry if I confused you but I said it was used as a rootstock for P. edulis not that it was. If it is the rootstock it has darker green leaves and narrower lobes than P. edulis.
Regards |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
November 20, 2008
12:23 AM Post #5811124
| Thanks Stake, is there a reference for doing that?
In Hawai'i we grow selected varieties of Passiflora edulis from seed. Seed is selected from uniformly sized fruit with a high juice content and good flavor.
Aloha, Dave |
Alistair
Nowra, NSW,
(Australia)
(Zone 9b)
November 20, 2008
1:29 AM Post #5811234
| Isn't it P. caerulea - the usual one grown outside in UK, as I remember.. |
Tuinkabouter
's-Gravenhage
(Netherlands)
(Zone 8b)
November 20, 2008
7:20 AM Post #5811488
| Definately Passiflora caerulea. The fruits are not edibe, unfortunately. But certainly ornamental. |
Stake
Barmera
(Australia)
November 20, 2008
7:49 AM Post #5811528
| G'Day
Passiflora caerulea is used as a rootstock because it has cold and Fusarium tolerance, in cool climates and in warmer climates the Golden Passionfruit is used because of Its tolerance to both Fusarium and Nematodes. I would think that any form of grafting would suit, I have seen them Whip and Tongued, Wedge and Side or Approach grafted. Commercially the Cleft is most commonly used because it is quicker than the others. As kids we used to eat the fruit of P. caerulea although it wasn't very tasty, at least that is what I was told it was. If you need more information I suggest you Google "Passionfruit +grafting" and you will get quite a bit of info. To Tuinkabouter do you say it is not edible because it is poisonous or just not very tasty, if it is poisonous then ours were wrongly named unless it is like a lot of poisonous plants that only kill you if large amounts are consumed.
Regards |
Tuinkabouter
's-Gravenhage
(Netherlands)
(Zone 8b)
November 20, 2008
8:25 AM Post #5811605
| It's not poisonous, just not very tasteful. If you open one, you'll see why... |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
November 20, 2008
1:26 PM Post #5812569
| The fleshy aril that surrounds the seeds are the edible part of any Passionfruit that is worth eating. The rest of the plant contains a cyanogenic glycocide (cyanide) and should be avoided.
Some folks use the leaves and flowers of Passiflora species to make a sedative tea which is effective because of the harmine related alkaloids contained. However, because of the cyanide this practice should be done sparingly, if at all!
A worthwhile use for the fruit is to juice them, reduce the juice to a syrup, and mix it into butter. It is great as a spread for bread!
Aloha, Dave |
Stake
Barmera
(Australia)
November 20, 2008
9:30 PM Post #5814157
| G'Day
To Tuinkabouter. The plant that I am referring to has red flesh, it wasn't horrible to eat just not much flavour but we do have a disease of Passionfruit called "Woody Virus", then the inside is virtually inedible because it is like a soft wood. I don't know if you have the virus in The Netherlands but could this be what you are describing when you say it is inedible.
Regards |
Stake
Barmera
(Australia)
November 21, 2008
1:55 AM Post #5814964
| G'Day
Metrosideros you asked is there a reference for that? I assume you mean for grafting Passionfruit. I thought I would start a new thread and call it just that.
Regards |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
November 21, 2008
1:37 PM Post #5816242
| Thanks Stake, yes I am interested in the grafted plants. I notice that Passiflora caerulea is hardy in zones 6 to 9 and is more cold tolerant that any other species, except for the 'Insence' cultivar of P. edulis which is grown for flowers. |
Stake
Barmera
(Australia)
November 21, 2008
9:27 PM Post #5817655
| G'Day
Good morning Metrosideros and others.
The thread called grafting Passionfruit has been moved to the Australian Forum as it wasn't appropriate for it to be in the Plant Identification thread. If you want more info just yell, if I have the required info I will pass it on.
Regards |
